In this episode, Justin and Allison talk about how Covid being a worldwide phenomenon provides an opportunity for all of us to talk about and work through our grief around it more easily, using our common language and experiences. They dig into how these moments can be used as a practice ground for having conversations about and processing hard things, as well as making room and time to celebrate amidst it all.

Allison and Justin talk about grief, discussing what they miss about the lives they had before their partners were diagnosed, the mourning over the lives they thought they would have but don’t, and the anticipatory grief they carry when thinking about the future. They connect their experiences to the collective feelings of grief being felt by many around the world during this time.